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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future

Where DOGE Is Taking Us

Apr 4, 2025
Makena Kelly, a Senior Writer at WIRED specializing in politics and technology, dives into the tumultuous world of DOGE and its ambitious plans with the Department of Health and Human Services. They discuss the emotional impact of mass layoffs on public health workers and the dire consequences of budget cuts. The conversation also explores the intersection of Dogecoin with political policies, the legal complexities of governmental operations, and the ongoing challenge of modernizing outdated tech systems. It's a thought-provoking look at the evolving governance landscape.
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Quick takeaways

  • The abrupt layoffs of federal workers at health agencies like the CDC and NIH threaten vital public health initiatives and services.
  • The push for government efficiency through personnel cuts raises concerns about the privatization of essential federal functions and community welfare.

Deep dives

Mass Layoffs at Federal Agencies

Thousands of federal employees at the Department of Health and Human Services, as well as other agencies, have faced abrupt layoffs following a series of announcements signaling significant reductions in personnel. Many employees received notifications via email, and some discovered their job loss when their badge access to buildings was suddenly revoked. These layoffs are part of a larger strategy to cut down approximately 10,000 positions across various health agencies, such as the CDC and NIH, raising concerns among workers who are left in the dark about the specifics of the cuts. As these public health workers, often unnoticed in their vital roles, are eliminated, there is an impending fear that their absence will have dire consequences on public health initiatives and support systems in the future.

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