In this discussion, journalist and analyst Haviv Rettig Gur delves into the complexities of Israeli identity and morality. He challenges the notion of the IDF as the 'Most Moral Army in the World,' exploring the ethical dilemmas faced by soldiers. The conversation also tackles the phrase 'A Land Without a People for a People Without a Land,' uncovering its historical roots and implications. Haviv emphasizes the importance of understanding these narratives to grasp the moral fabric of a nation and the evolving Palestinian identity amidst these myths.
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IDF Morality Amid Hostile Challenges
The IDF strives to be moral yet faces unique and severe challenges not met by other armies.
Its morality is weaponized by enemies who hide among civilians and use international law against it.
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Jewish Morality in Existential War
Israeli morality faces extreme tests due to existential wars and asymmetric warfare.
Jewish values evolve from vulnerability to a complex balance of power and ethics.
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Hamas Weaponizes Morality
Hamas uses Gaza's population and morality of Israelis as shields, making civilian casualties a calculated strategy.
Israel faces an enemy whose survival depends on exploiting moral limits and international law.
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Host Noam Weissman is joined once again by journalist and analyst Haviv Rettig Gur to unpack not just myths about Israeli security—but the deeper, more existential myths about Israeli identity, morality, and nationhood. In part 2, Haviv and Noam explore two foundational narratives: The IDF as the "Most Moral Army in the World" and the line "A Land Without a People for a People Without a Land." This is not an episode about “myth-busting”—it’s about myth-exploring: asking hard questions, wrestling with uncomfortable truths, and embracing the interplay between facts, feelings, and national narratives.
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