Intelligence Squared

Are bureaucrats a force for good? With Michael Lewis and Gillian Tett (Part One)

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Jul 5, 2025
The podcast dives into the vital role of government and the often-overlooked contributions of public servants. Michael Lewis shares compelling stories, like a dedicated coal miner improving mine safety and a Coast Guard oceanographer innovating search and rescue techniques. The discussion highlights the unsung heroes of democracy, challenging stereotypes about bureaucrats and emphasizing their importance in ensuring public safety. Amidst political chaos, the need for effective government institutions and a reevaluation of civil service roles takes center stage.
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ANECDOTE

Arthur Allen's Life-Saving Science

  • Arthur A. Allen invented the science of how objects drift at sea, improving Coast Guard rescue operations significantly.
  • His work has saved thousands of lives, including dramatic rescues like a man falling off a cruise ship near Miami.
INSIGHT

Flawed Government Reform Approach

  • Elon Musk's government reforms cut young expert probationary workers while leaving entrenched workers intact.
  • Targeting people instead of processes increased risks and failed to address systemic government problems.
ANECDOTE

IRS Agent's Crucial Cyber Fight

  • Geraldine Brooks wrote about an IRS cyber crimes marshal who dismantled child sex trafficking rings and recovered billions.
  • Despite his unit being cut in half, he remains vital, showing the real-life impact of civil servants.
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