37: Christopher Kirchhoff, co-founder of the Pentagon’s Defense Innovation Unit (DIU) and co-author of “Unit X: How the Pentagon and Silicon Valley are Transforming the Future of War”

Christopher Kirchhoff, co-author of “Unit X: How the Pentagon and Silicon Valley are Transforming the Future of War,” and a founding figure of the Pentagon’s Defense Innovation Unit (DIU), joins host Tammy Haddad to explore the military's race to integrate cutting-edge technology. From key breakthroughs in AI and autonomous systems to the hurdles of bureaucracy and global tech rivalry, Kirchhoff delivers an important history lesson on defense technology and an insider’s perspective on the dangers ahead. He discusses his work on AI safety, and offers analysis of Anthropic, OpenAI, and all the frontier labs.