Guest Chris Rosebrough discusses and responds to criticisms made by cessationist Justin Peters. They analyze biblical passages, including Jeremiah 32:8, to argue against the belief in clear divine communication. They also explore the clarity of revelations in the Bible, the interpretation of Hebrew words, and discuss the story of Samuel in relation to the charismatic movement. The hosts express their dissatisfaction with a video and assert a desire for a respectful conversation.
Prophecy can sometimes be unclear until confirmed by events, as seen in Jeremiah 32:8.
Prophetic signs can provide confirmation and reassurance in the face of impending doom.
Deep dives
The Interpretation of Jeremiah 32:8
The podcast episode discusses the interpretation of Jeremiah 32:8 and whether it supports the idea that prophecy can sometimes be unclear until it is confirmed by events. The hosts argue that the phrase 'then I knew that this was the word of the Lord' can be understood as Jeremiah realizing that a specific event fulfilled what God had spoken to him. They cite various commentaries, including Calvin's and G. Campbell Morgan's, that support this interpretation. They also address the claim that prophecies should always be clear and emphasize the importance of discernment and judgment by the community when evaluating prophecies. They refute the idea that Charismatics rely solely on feelings and underscore the need for humility and accountability in prophetic ministry. Additionally, they critique the host of the podcast episode for appealing to their Hebrew scholarship and making it seem as if their interpretation is the only valid one.
The interpretation of Jeremiah 32 leans towards our view
The podcast hosts discuss their interpretation of Jeremiah 32 and provide six reasons why they believe their interpretation is more likely. They admit that the opposing interpretation is fair, but emphasize the importance of theological humility. They believe that Jeremiah's statement in verse 8 confirms the prophetic word he received in verse 6, providing confirmation from God.
Confirmation in the midst of uncertainty
The hosts highlight the difficulty Jeremiah would have had in believing that God wanted him to buy a field from prison, especially when Babylon was about to seize the land. They draw parallels to the story of Moses and the burning bush, showcasing that even someone who spoke with God face to face had doubts and needed additional confirmation. They suggest that Jeremiah would have sought confirmation due to the imminent destruction by Babylon.
A prophetic sign for hope and encouragement
The hosts explain that the language used in Jeremiah 32 suggests that the field transaction was a prophetic sign. They compare it to examples in the Bible where prophetic signs confirmed the truth of a prophetic word. They argue that the sign was not only for the general population to convey hope amidst impending doom, but also for Jeremiah himself, who was in prison and needed reassurance in the face of Babylon's siege.
So one of our shorts from our review of the Cessationist film caught the attention of cessationist Justin Peters. He’s provided a video response, so we’ll examine the arguments he and his guest Chris Rosebrough present.
Jeremiah 32:6-8 ESV 6 Jeremiah said, “The word of the Lord came to me: 7 Behold, Hanamel the son of Shallum your uncle will come to you and say, ‘Buy my field that is at Anathoth, for the right of redemption by purchase is yours.’ 8 Then Hanamel my cousin came to me in the court of the guard, in accordance with the word of the Lord, and said to me, ‘Buy my field that is at Anathoth in the land of Benjamin, for the right of possession and redemption is yours; buy it for yourself.’ Then I knew that this was the word of the Lord.
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