This episode features an interview with Eugene Song, VP of Product Management at BrainPOP.

In this episode, Eugene reminds us that we have to put in the hours to be good at something new, shares what he believes to be the most valuable trait of a PM, and what it was like working in edtech during a time where teachers and parents relied fully on digital learning resources. Eugene also talks about BrainPOPs secret sauce and how to evaluate the intangible spirit of a product.

Key Takeaways

Kyle: 

• Invent with instinct, validate with data: Learn to trust the right instincts, check yourself, get feedback, and complete that process over and over.
• There are horizontal and vertical career moments as a PM: As you progress through your career, your perspective changes and there’s a wider and less vertical breadth in what you do.
• Remember what made your product great in the first place: Make sure all of your products align with your north star, and hand over that journey to the customer.

Lukasz: 

• Leap in and learn quickly: Look for new experiences and go into them with an open mind and be persistent. Continue to focus on the value and outcomes of your products.
• Great tech gets out of the way: Useful tech speaks for itself and allows for wonderful things.

Segment Timestamps: 

*(00:42) - Never Have I Ever

*(10:47) - Innovation, Therapy & Other Wild Tales

*(26:12) - PM Power Move

*(32:33) - Ship it or Skip it

*(37:01) - Host Takeaways

Links:

• Connect with Lukasz Weber & Kyle Kolich on LinkedIn
• Connect with Eugene Song
• Learn more about BrainPOP
• Learn more about Zuora

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