What We're Listening To: Richard Dawkins on UnHerd
Aug 31, 2023
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Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins joins the host to discuss God, distrust in science and vaccines, cancel culture, aliens, and romantic poetry. They explore the existence of God, the misinterpretation of Dawkins' work, evolution and natural selection, the impact of COVID on public trust in science, and the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
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Scientific authority and trust in science were damaged during the pandemic, highlighting the need for more modest claims, informed decision-making, and reevaluation of scientific systems.
The world has seen a shift towards tribalism and nationalism, but biologist Richard Dawkins believes in promoting a global, cooperative society where rigid group identities are overcome.
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The COVID era and the damage to scientific authority
During the COVID era, scientific authority and trust in science were damaged due to over-promised vaccine effectiveness, changing information about transmission, and heavy-handed mandates. The speed of vaccine development was a scientific triumph, but the messaging and evolving information created mistrust. The scientific community needs to be more modest in its claims and allow individuals to make informed decisions. The pandemic also highlighted issues with the peer review system, funding, and how universities protect their faculty. Constructive criticism and reevaluation of these systems are needed.
The rise of tribalism and nationalism
The world has seen a shift towards more tribalism and nationalism, challenging the idea of a globalized, rational future. This resurgence of group identity and competition between different groups may be influenced by human nature, but it doesn't mean we are stuck with it. As a biologist, Richard Dawkins recognizes the importance of tribal instincts but believes we can fight against them. He sees the value in promoting a global, cooperative society rather than one divided by rigid group identities.
The potential of artificial intelligence (AI) and extraterrestrial life
Artificial intelligence supplanting organic life is a possibility, as the brain is a material object and AI could surpass human capabilities. Richard Dawkins acknowledges the potential benefits and dangers of advanced AI, but its emergence into reality remains speculative. Additionally, Dawkins deems the existence of extraterrestrial life as very likely, given the vast opportunities in the universe. While the discovery of life elsewhere seems probable, visiting physical entities from other planets is highly unlikely. Dawkins supports the search for extraterrestrial intelligence through radio communication.
The team’s on vacation, so for this week’s Honestly, we’re sharing a favorite episode from a favorite podcast, one you may not have heard of: UnHerd with Freddie Sayers.
UnHerd’s mission is similar to ours: to push back against the herd mentality, and to provide a platform for otherwise unheard ideas, people, and places.
On this episode, host Freddie Sayers talks to evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins about God, people’s distrust in science and vaccines, cancel culture, aliens, romantic poetry and more.