In this episode, theologian Russell Moore sits down with acclaimed poet and philosopher David Whyte to explore the terrain where faith meets poetry. Beginning with Whyte’s new book Consolations II, their conversation traverses the landscapes of language, spirituality, and what it means to be fully present in a fractured world.

Whyte, whose work bridges the philosophical traditions of the East and West with the everyday struggles of being human, offers profound insights on why poetry serves as more than mere decoration—it becomes essential language for our deepest experiences. Moore—bringing his biblical, theological perspective—and Whyte dialogue about the “conversational nature of reality” that Whyte proposes and discuss how it resonates with and challenges Christian understandings of communion with God.

Their discussion moves through territories both intimate and universal:

The ways poetry gives language to experiences that resist explanation
The nature of courage as vulnerability rather than bravado
Navigating anxiety in a world that demands constant performance
Approaching death, as a companion or an enemy
The surprising spiritual journey that led Whyte from marine zoology to becoming one of our most vital poetic voices
Whether the modern world is “disenchanted” and what difference that makes

While coming from different spiritual traditions, Moore and Whyte explore together how human experience requires language that opens rather than closes, invites rather than insists. Their conversation models what genuine dialogue across philosophical differences can look like—curious, generous, and alive to mystery.

Resources mentioned in this episode or recommended by the guest include:

David Whyte on On Being with Krista Tippett
Consolations: The Solace, Nourishment and Underlying Meaning of Everyday Words by David Whyte
“The Journey” by David Whyte
Pilgrim by David Whyte
Consolations II: The Solace, Nourishment and Underlying Meaning of Everyday Words by David Whyte
Selected Poems by Thom Gunn and Ted Hughes by Thom Gunn and Ted Hughes
The House of Belonging by David Whyte
Cosmic Connections: Poetry in the Age of Disenchantment by Charles Taylor
“The Opening of Eyes” by David Whyte
The Book of Hours by Rainer Marie Rilke
Songs of Innocence and Experience by William Blake

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