Phil is co-founder of MindfulMover: An online training company that focuses on a unique form on minimalist training!  The minimalist training is about finding the MAXIMIZING the range of gains and carryover made while MINIMIZING the time it takes to train and get them.  This allows you to make gains in things you ARE directly training as well as things you AREN'T directly training while leaving PLENTY of time for other things in life like passions, hobbies, family, friends, rest, relaxation, etc.  They do that with a mixture of bodyweight and weight training and constantly test to find ways to improve the amount of gains made and minimize the time it takes to make them!

During this conversation Phil and Kyle discuss reevaluating their approaches to strength training.  Phil talks about the minimalist approach to strength training and the research he has done to arrive at his current philosophy.  He also shares where he gives his time now that he spends less of it in the gym.  And, he reflects on his years in martial arts, meeting students where they're at, and the need for compassion.