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Srsly Risky Biz: Neutering Volt Typhoon to deter China

Sep 26, 2024
Tom Uren, a cybersecurity and strategic policy expert, joins host Patrick Gray to tackle the complex dynamics of deterring the Chinese cyber group Volt Typhoon. They discuss the challenges and implications of the US’s cybersecurity efforts and whether neutering this threat could ease tensions. The conversation also highlights Microsoft’s impressive turnaround in security measures and the significant pressures that government actions exert on tech companies like X and Telegram in the ever-evolving landscape of regulation.
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Quick takeaways

  • The U.S. should focus on neutralizing Volt Typhoon's capabilities to potentially deter China's aggressive military actions and cyber strategies.
  • The responses of companies like Microsoft, X, and Telegram highlight the increasing governmental pressure on tech firms to comply with regulatory demands.

Deep dives

Deterring Military Actions with Cyber Capabilities

There is a discussion about the United States' inability to deter China from undertaking activities related to Vault Typhoon, which involves strategic cyberattacks that could disrupt critical infrastructure. However, it is suggested that the U.S. could use its own capabilities as a deterrent to mitigate the potential effects of such attacks. The argument posits that if the U.S. demonstrates effectiveness against Vault Typhoon, it could instill doubt in Chinese leadership about the reliability of their cyber advantage. Ultimately, the focus should be on discouraging aggressive military actions rather than merely deterring the use of cyber tools.

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