

David Lipsky - 07/18/23
Jul 18, 2023
David Lipsky, acclaimed author and journalist known for works like The Parrot and the Igloo, discusses his new book and the art of writing. He dives into making complex topics like climate change engaging for readers, balancing seriousness with entertainment. Lipsky shares his literary influences and emphasizes crafting sentences to maintain reader trust. The conversation touches on the challenges of presenting moral outrage, corporate disinformation's history, and the frustrating inertia in societal action against climate change. Brian offers glowing praise for Lipsky's insightful storytelling.
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Write Big Books That Are Fun
- Make big subjects fun to read so readers stay engaged with serious issues.
- Write sentence-by-sentence with craft-minded energy to entertain and inform simultaneously.
Wallace's Mother Line-Edited Early Drafts
- David's first-half manuscript was line-edited by David Foster Wallace's mother, a former composition teacher.
- Her edits tightened early passages and she felt proud when readers praised the book's pace.
Trust Your Readerly Instincts
- Trust your own reaction to a subject; if it rings true for you, it will likely ring true for readers.
- Use vivid physical details from video or meetings to anchor persona and credibility.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Ambitions Behind The Parrot and the Igloo
01:43 • 1min
Why Make a Difficult Topic Readable
03:03 • 4min
Craft, Voice, and Literary Influences
07:06 • 3min
Making Outrage Entertaining, Not Bludgeoning
10:25 • 4min
Writing for the Amateur Reader
14:20 • 5min
Describing Characters with Precision
19:30 • 2min
Leitmotifs, Repetition, and Reader Trust
21:46 • 11min
Drafting Strategies and Rewriting
32:35 • 11min
Balancing Big Ideas and Readability
44:02 • 7min
Villains, Hubris, and Human Motivation
51:13 • 5min
History of Disinformation: Aspirin and Cigarettes
56:40 • 4min
Tiny Lives and Moral Consequences
01:00:22 • 11min
Why Show the Story, Not Moralize It
01:11:02 • 11min
Structuring the Book to Earn Trust
01:21:36 • 5min
Is America Too Stupid to Act?
01:26:52 • 7min
Politics, Incentives, and Delay
01:33:40 • 11min
Resourcefulness vs. Resilience: Historical Warnings Ignored
01:44:46 • 4min
Illustrating Policy Erosion Through Stories
01:48:31 • 2min
Final Praise and Book Recommendation
01:50:30 • 2min
Outro
01:52:50 • 1min
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Why Are We in Vietnam?


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' is a novel by Norman Mailer that explores the complexities of American masculinity and the nation's involvement in the Vietnam War. Through the story of a hunting trip in Alaska, Mailer delves into the psychological and primal motivations that drive individuals and nations to violence.
The narrative captures the raw energy and intensity of human emotions while critiquing the political and cultural forces that led to the conflict.
The novel remains a powerful and provocative examination of American identity and the consequences of its actions.
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Franny

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Franny, part of J.D.
Salinger's Franny and Zooey, portrays a young college student's existential crisis.
Franny becomes disillusioned with the superficiality of academic life and begins seeking spiritual enlightenment.
She carries around a book, 'The Way of a Pilgrim,' and attempts to practice the Jesus Prayer.
Her emotional turmoil affects her relationships, particularly with her boyfriend, Lane.
The novella explores themes of authenticity, spirituality, and the search for meaning in a materialistic world, capturing Franny's struggle to reconcile her intellectual and spiritual aspirations.
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The Deer Park


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Although of course you end up becoming yourself


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David Lipsky's 'Although Of Course You End Up Becoming Yourself' recounts his experience of spending five days with David Foster Wallace.
Based on a Rolling Stone assignment, the book captures Wallace during the final leg of his Infinite Jest book tour.
It offers an intimate portrait of the celebrated author, revealing his thoughts on fame, writing, and life.
Lipsky's narrative provides insight into Wallace's personality, his struggles, and his unique perspective on American culture.
The book was later adapted into the film 'The End of the Tour', further cementing its place in contemporary literary history.

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The Parrot and the Igloo


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Stealing Horses


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As summer progresses, Trond reflects on a pivotal summer in his youth, when he spent time with his father and experienced a life-altering event.
The novel explores themes of memory, loss, and the complex relationship between fathers and sons.
Through introspective prose, Petterson creates a haunting and beautiful meditation on the enduring impact of the past on the present.
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The Prime of Mrs. Jean Brody


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The novel explores themes of loyalty, betrayal, and the power of education.
It's a sharp and witty commentary on the nature of influence and the complexities of human character.
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You're Ugly Too

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'You're Ugly, Too' is a poignant short story by Lorrie Moore that delves into the life of Zoë, a young, witty college professor navigating the complexities of relationships and academia.
The story is characterized by Moore's signature blend of humor and melancholy as Zoë deals with personal insecurities and the challenges of modern romance.
Through sharp, insightful prose, Moore explores themes of identity, loneliness, and the search for connection in a fragmented world.
Zoë's experiences resonate with readers through her relatable struggles and the story's bittersweet tone, making it one of Moore's most beloved and critically acclaimed works.
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West Point


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Ellis Island


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The book delves into Moses's early life, his idealistic beginnings, and his transformation into a powerful figure who dominated New York's politics without ever being elected.
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The biography is renowned for its detailed and nuanced portrayal of power dynamics in urban politics.

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Refiner's Fire


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This rule creates a paradox where a man is considered insane if he willingly continues to fly dangerous missions, but if he requests to be relieved of duty, he is proven sane and thus ineligible for relief.
The novel is known for its nonchronological structure, circular reasoning, and its critique of military bureaucracy and the illogical nature of war.

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This novel follows the life of Billy Pilgrim, a chaplain's assistant in the U.S.
Army during World War II. Billy becomes 'unstuck in time' and experiences his life out of order, including his time as a prisoner of war in Dresden during the Allied firebombing.
The book is a powerful anti-war statement, blending Vonnegut's own experiences with science fiction elements, such as Billy's abduction by aliens from Tralfamadore.
It explores themes of post-traumatic stress, the absurdity of war, and the human condition, using Vonnegut's characteristic black humor and fatalistic tone.
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Sirens of Titan


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Kurt Vonnegut's "Sirens of Titan" is a science fiction novel that explores themes of fate, free will, and the nature of existence.
The novel follows the journey of Malachi Constant, an unlikely protagonist who becomes entangled in a cosmic conspiracy.
Vonnegut uses humor and absurdity to examine the complexities of human relationships and the limitations of human understanding.
The novel's blend of science fiction and philosophical inquiry has made it a significant work in Vonnegut's body of work.
Its exploration of existential themes and its unique narrative style continue to resonate with readers.

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Loitering with intent


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A far cry from Kensington


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nature, and the existential questions of good and evil.
The novel is rich in detailed descriptions of whale hunting and life aboard a culturally diverse crew, and it has become a cornerstone of American and world literature.

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It is set in the fictional town of Midland City, Ohio, and focuses on two main characters: Dwayne Hoover, a wealthy car dealer on the verge of insanity, and Kilgore Trout, a science fiction writer.
The novel is known for its unique style, which includes simple syntax, irony, black humor, and didacticism.
Vonnegut himself appears as a narrator, using metafiction to explain and manipulate the narrative.
The book critiques various aspects of American society, including war, sex, racism, success, politics, and pollution.
It also features drawings by Vonnegut, which illustrate various aspects of life on Earth.
Message from Brian. Episodes like this one with David Lipsky are why I do the podcast. Sit back. Take a walk. Drive somewhere. But settle in. Lipsky wrote one of the best books I've read in a decade. And he is almost as good at talking as he is at writing. Dive in.
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