Adam Carolla Show

How Elections Are Stolen with Ralph Pezzullo and Gary Berntsen

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Sep 4, 2025
Ralph Pezzullo, author of 'Stolen Elections: The Plot to Destroy Democracy', and Gary Berntsen, former CIA station chief, delve into critical threats facing modern elections. They discuss alarming foreign manipulations, the integrity of U.S. voting systems, and the fallout from the 2020 elections. Pezzullo emphasizes the need for vigilance and reform to protect democratic values. The duo also examines misinformation's role in shaping public perception and the urgent call for transparency in electoral processes.
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ANECDOTE

The Meeting That Started The Investigation

  • Ralph Pezzullo met a DEA source who showed a four-hour presentation on years of election-fraud investigation.
  • That meeting introduced the whistleblower network that underpins their claims about stolen elections.
INSIGHT

Electronic Voting Centralizes Hidden Manipulation

  • Foreign-run electronic voting systems can centralize manipulation and defeat audits using proprietary source code.
  • Gary Berntsen and Ralph Pezzullo say engineers studied audits and built methods to hide tampering across jurisdictions.
INSIGHT

Origin Story: Smartmatic And Venezuela

  • Smartmatic started by helping Hugo Chávez win a 2004 recall using modified voting machines and source code.
  • Pezzullo and Berntsen claim that success funded a company that exported software and techniques across Latin America and beyond.
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