New Books Network

Anand, "The Notbook of Kabir: Thinner than Water, Fiercer than Fire" (India Viking, 2025)

Nov 4, 2025
S. Anand, a publisher, editor, and performer, dives deep into the world of Kabir, blending poetry, translation, and music. He shares his journey of rediscovering Kabir's songs and the influence of anticaste thinkers like Ambedkar. Anand vividly explains the joyous intersections of Kabir with Buddhist teachings and the subversive essence of figures like Chokhamela. His passion for translating rare songs breathes new life into Kabir's words, inviting listeners to explore the transformative power of this legendary poet.
Ask episode
AI Snips
Chapters
Books
Transcript
Episode notes
ANECDOTE

Journey From Music To Publishing And Back

  • S. Anand describes leaving music and poetry while fighting caste, then returning after encountering Kabir and friends who urged him to sing again.
  • He credits Navayana's founding and Ambedkar's influence for shaping his publishing and political work.
INSIGHT

Kabir As A Shared, Stitchless Persona

  • Anand frames Kabir as a shared, stitchless persona that transcends biography and language, calling it Kabir-stan.
  • He uses cover art (Ambedkar, Buddha, peacock feather) to signal Kabir's boundless, anti-institutional spirit.
INSIGHT

Kabir, Buddha, And Ambedkar Interconnected

  • Anand connects Kabir's verses to Buddhist suttas and Ambedkar's embrace of Buddhism, arguing Kabir often restates Buddhist ideas in colloquial forms.
  • This suggests Kabir functions as a vernacular transmitter of older, pan-Indian spiritual radicals.
Get the Snipd Podcast app to discover more snips from this episode
Get the app