

Episode 234: Tommy Vietor
Jul 13, 2025
Tommy Vietor, co-host of Pod Save America and former National Security Council spokesman under President Obama, dives into the Democratic Party's struggles with voter disconnect. He discusses a potential radical shift within the party, echoing the Tea Party's impact. The conversation highlights urgent issues like foreign policy challenges, immigration enforcement discrepancies, and the need for grassroots engagement. Vietor critiques the legacy of past administrations while advocating for more coherent communication and political strategies amid rising authoritarianism.
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Democratic Base Radicalization
- The Democratic base is radicalizing positively by demanding aggressive opposition to Trump.
- Leadership like Chuck Schumer is perceived as insufficiently confrontational against Trump.
Gap on Israel Stance
- Democratic leadership lags behind voter attitudes on Israel.
- Base increasingly opposes support for Netanyahu's right-wing, violent policies.
JCPOA's Diplomatic Value
- JCPOA (Iran deal) was a key diplomatic success preventing war.
- Democrats' cowardice and Trump's withdrawal destabilized progress.