In this episode, Laura and Kevin sit down with Bob Bodily, founder of Odin.fun, to talk about the wild ride of memecoins, Bitcoin's evolving role in the crypto ecosystem, and what the future might hold for decentralized tech. Bob breaks down how Odin.fun is rethinking the Bitcoin experience, from instant token creation to a gasless, wallet-agnostic interface that’s pulling in tens of thousands of users.

We discuss the growing risks in crypto including wallet drains, scams, and design flaws, and ask what platforms can do to protect users without killing the fun. Bob shares his thoughts on whether the rise of meme-driven platforms is a cultural shift or just another hype cycle, and weighs in on Bitcoin’s potential to support more complex applications without abandoning its core stability.

There’s also plenty of banter: Laura's optimism, Kevin’s crypto skepticism, and Bob’s grounded take on what’s real, what’s broken, and what could be next. Whether you’re a degenerate trader or just crypto-curious, this one gives you a smart, honest look at what’s going on under the hood.

Bob Bodily is the founder of Odin.fun, which pioneered instant memecoin creation and trading on Bitcoin and offers 2-second finality.

With Odin.fun, Bob has shown what’s possible with Bitcoin and helped silence the narrative that the network isn’t fast enough. After the first two months of operation, the platform amassed more than 60K users, 3000+ BTC in trading volume, and 15k+ tokens created, with 150+ hitting bonded status. Unlike Solana’s model, Odin.fun offers a gasless experience through chain abstraction tech, enables logins with any Bitcoin wallet, and uses a single-canister system to streamline operations. It’s a fresh take on Bitcoin’s capabilities, hinting at the broader potential for programmability on the network, which Bob can highlight to underscore the capabilities of the Bitcoin-native Layer 0 interoperability protocol.

Bitcoin, Memecoins, and the Battle Over Crypto UX with Odin.fun's Bob Bodily