Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Justin Trudeau’s father and former Prime Minister of Canada, famously said 'There's no place for the State in the bedrooms of the nation.’ I agree … but sometimes you just *have* to talk about sex. Minna Salami joins me to explore the issues of freedom, healing, and regaining power after oppression from a black feminist perspective. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 

Minna reads two pages from ‘The Sex Lives of African Women’ by Nana Darkoa Sekyiamah. [reading starts at 07:32]

Hear us talk about:

The search for freedom and healing among different sexualities, religions, and backgrounds. [11:31] | Taking back your power: “It is imperative to reimagine and unlearn everything that we think about power itself.” [14:14] | The ‘river’ metaphor for understanding power: “Power for humans is the equivalent of gravity for rivers - it is how we move forward to our destination.” [20:37] | “It is difficult to dominate people who feel conscientious joy.” [23:05] | The danger of passivity when rage disappears. [25:53] | Returning to freedom and finding home. [28:43] | How to decide where to share your voice. [30:53]