The Social-Engineer Podcast Ep. 138 – Security With Marcus Sailler of Capital Group
In this episode, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by industry professional, Marcus Sailler to discuss his experience as the red team information security manager at Capital Group. Marcus shares some great tips on creating a successful security team and how you can prevent it from becoming the "No Police". They also go over the recent changes in the industry, including how big hacks have increased security awareness in the general public.
00:09 – Introduction to the new Security Awareness Series
01:28 – Introduction to Ryan MacDougall
02:32 – Introduction to Marcus Sailler
04:20 – How Marcus got into information security
06:08 – Recent changes in the infosec industry- How a big hack increases security awareness
12:09 – How a red team and security awareness team can collaborate to enhance security
14:25 – Introduction to Capital Group
16:17 – Coming up with relevant attacks for a global company
18:08 – How a security team can avoid becoming the “No Police”
21:39 – Why it’s better to build a blue team first
22:24 – The importance of attitude and ego for a red teamer
25:04 – How a red team benefits from partnership
26:53 – Emulate the bad guy, but remember to be good
29:18 – Steps corporations should implement now
30:58 – Some of Marcus’ most respected industry professionals
34:47 – Marcus' book recommendations
Sizing People Up: A Veteran FBI Agent's User Manual for Behavior Prediction
The 5 Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lasts
39:18 – Marcus' contact info
14:38 – Outro
SEVillage: The Human Hacking Conference