The Charlie Kirk Show

The Debate Heard Around the World

Jul 15, 2025
In a fiery debate, stand-up comedian and libertarian Dave Smith clashes with Newsweek columnist Josh Hammer over the Israel-U.S. relationship at the Student Action Summit. They tackle hot-button issues like Iran's nuclear threat, military interventions, and the influence of AIPAC in U.S. foreign policy. Smith advocates for a non-interventionist stance while Hammer defends Israel's role and criticizes critics of U.S. support. The discussion offers a deep dive into the complexities of ethical warfare and the responsibilities surrounding ongoing conflicts in the Middle East.
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ANECDOTE

Neocons and Middle East Wars

  • Dave Smith described America’s repeated wars as militarism hijacked by neoconservatives linked to Israeli interests.
  • He referenced plans revealed by General Wesley Clark to overthrow seven countries, culminating with Iran.
ANECDOTE

Iran Nuclear Threat Discussion

  • Josh Hammer acknowledged uncertainty on Iran’s nuclear threat but noted decades of attempts to acquire nuclear weapons.
  • He cited IAEA warnings about Iran blocking inspections and enriching uranium suspiciously fast.
INSIGHT

Core Divide on Israel and U.S.

  • The debate reveals deep disagreements on Israel being a U.S. ally and the extent of its influence on American politics.
  • Those who oppose American military involvement urge a return to constitutional republic principles and fiscal responsibility.
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