

977 - The Next Day feat. Ryan Grim and Jeremy Scahill
35 snips Oct 14, 2025
Ryan Grim, editor at DropSite, and Jeremy Scahill, investigative journalist and co-founder of The Intercept, dive deep into the recent ceasefire in Gaza. They analyze why this ceasefire might differ from past ones and what it means for the region's future. The discussion touches on media coverage, including the controversy over images of malnourished children in Gaza and connections between pro-Israel figures and mainstream media narratives. They emphasize the importance of independent reporting and fact-based journalism in today’s landscape.
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Trump Says The Quiet Parts Out Loud
- Trump publicly says the quiet parts: he openly credits Adelson and boasts of influence in Israel's policy.
- Jeremy and Ryan argue his candor reveals longstanding U.S.–Israel alignment rather than novelty.
Ceasefire As Strategic Repositioning
- The ceasefire reflects a tactical repositioning, not a final resolution to Israel's long campaign.
- Jeremy warns Israel may pause large air campaigns while keeping options to resume or pursue slow annihilation.
Demilitarization And International Forces Loom
- The deal demands international forces and demilitarization as preconditions for Israeli withdrawal.
- Jeremy and Ryan predict fierce fights over who governs Gaza and how 'demilitarization' will be defined.