Baroness Helena Kennedy Acting Chair of the Media Standards Trust talks to Steve Hewlett about the latest twists and turns in implementing Lord Justice Leveson's press reforms. Plus Phil Collins Chief Leader writer of The Times, Professor Natalie Fenton a board member of the campaign group Hacked Off and Chris Blackhurst Editor of The Independent join Steve Hewlett to discuss whether the Royal Charter throws up as many problems as it solves. Producer Beverley Purcell.