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Jen Wilkin and Mike Kruger on Understanding Revelation

Oct 31, 2025
Jen Wilkin is a Bible teacher and author, while Mike Kruger serves as president of Reformation Seminary. Together, they dive into Revelation, unpacking its often misunderstood themes. They share how childhood fears shaped their views on this apocalyptic text and discuss how early Christians understood its symbols. The conversation highlights the book's rich Old Testament allusions and its central focus on Christ, offering assurance and a call to self-examination for believers. They also provide insights on interpreting its symbolic nature versus literal perspectives.
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ANECDOTE

Childhood Fear From 'Thief In The Night'

  • Jen Wilkin describes childhood trauma from the film A Thief in the Night that gave her panic attacks about Revelation.
  • That experience made her avoid the book for years until reengaging later.
ANECDOTE

1980s Cold War Framing

  • Mike Kruger shares a similar experience of being frightened by Thief in the Night and Cold War-era Revelation readings.
  • He recalls 1980s covers tying Revelation to U.S.–Soviet tensions.
INSIGHT

Two Extremes Around Revelation

  • Two harmful extremes: obsessive fixation versus near neglect of Revelation skew understanding.
  • Both extremes arise from either overinterpreting events or avoiding difficulty entirely.
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