
 Become New with John Ortberg
 Become New with John Ortberg 12. Why God Allows Suffering and Our Bend Toward Isolation with Dr. Eleonore Stump & John Ortberg
 Nov 5, 2024 
 Dr. Eleonore Stump, a professor of philosophy at St. Louis University and author of "Wandering in Darkness," engages in a profound discussion about the nature of suffering and its implications for faith. They explore the paradox of willed loneliness, delving into the fear of vulnerability. The conversation touches on the moral dimensions of suffering and how personal relationships enhance our understanding of divine love. Stump emphasizes the transformative potential of suffering, positioning it as a key to spiritual fulfillment. 
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 Intro 
 00:00 โข 5min 
 The Nature of Suffering and Human Responsibility 
 04:50 โข 3min 
 The Depth of Relational Knowledge 
 08:06 โข 6min 
 Understanding God Through Personal Union and Love 
 14:26 โข 2min 
 The Paradox of Willed Loneliness 
 16:56 โข 5min 
 The Nature of Divine Love and Suffering 
 22:06 โข 21min 
