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The Drug Science Podcast

91. The Psychedelic Industry with Josh Hardman

Nov 23, 2023
Josh Hardman, founder of Psychedelic Alpha, discusses the challenges faced by the psychedelic industry including progress of decriminalisation, clinical trial milestones, and the potential evolution of the industry. They also touch on the current state of decriminalization in Oregon and Colorado, challenges in accessing regulated psilocybin, real-world evidence collection, drug development models, and the importance of in-person events in the psychedelic industry.
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  • The psychedelic industry faces challenges regarding the reimbursement of psychedelic therapies and the need to demonstrate their value and cost-effectiveness to insurers and payers.
  • The potential of non-hallucinogenic psychedelics is being explored, highlighting the possibility of these molecules becoming a new class of psychiatric medicine.

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Drug Science Podcast: The Evolution of Psychedelics

The podcast episode explores the evolution of the psychedelic sector, particularly in terms of recent policy reform. The guest, Josh Hardman, discusses the journey of psychedelic alpha, a web resource and newsletter focused on psychedelics. Initially starting as psilocybin alpha and later expanding to cover all psychedelics, the resource provides well-researched updates and analysis. Josh delves into the shift from a purely countercultural perspective of psychedelics to the emergence of a medical model. He discusses the potential benefits of having a medical model, such as reimbursement, making psychedelic therapy more accessible to a wider population. However, he also highlights the challenges in terms of cost-effectiveness and reimbursement from payers like health insurers. He emphasizes the importance of demonstrating the value and cost-effectiveness of psychedelic therapies. Additionally, he mentions the need for government engagement and support, as well as the importance of collecting real-world evidence and conducting bioequivalence studies for different psychedelic drugs.

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