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Magnus Carlsen: What it takes to be the best in the world at something

Aug 5, 2025
In a vibrant conversation, World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen shares insights into what it takes to excel among 600 million players. He reflects on the balance of talent and rigorous training that forged his path to mastery. Carlsen opens up about his early obsession with chess, beginning with games against his sister. He discusses the curious intersection of his interests in poker and chess, and the ongoing quest to stay motivated. Finally, he looks back at his journey, weighing the sacrifices made against his remarkable achievements.
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INSIGHT

Mastery Means Making Your Own Rules

  • Mastery requires learning all basics and identifying exceptions.
  • Creating your own rules is essential to surpass peers at chess and many disciplines.
ANECDOTE

Magnus' Early Chess Obsession

  • Magnus started playing seriously around age five or six, initially to beat his sister.
  • He studied chess books daily, even eating meals at his chess table to maximize learning.
INSIGHT

Ambition Developed Through Competition

  • Initially, Magnus focused on fun and improvement rather than being the best.
  • His ambition for world #1 grew only after playing and competing well against top players.
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