

“He did it. Not guilty.”
Feb 16, 2021
Heather McGhee, a political strategist and author of "The Sum of Us," joins the conversation to discuss the staggering economic costs of racism. She eloquently addresses how inclusivity can lead to mutual prosperity, emphasizing the need to build coalitions that transcend racial divides. The discussion also touches on the political dynamics surrounding Trump's impeachment, the urgent fight for voting rights, and the critical need for reforms to safeguard democracy. McGhee's insights challenge listeners to rethink economic policies and foster unity.
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Last-Minute Impeachment Surprise
- Just before the Senate vote, House impeachment managers sought witness testimony from Rep. Herrera-Butler.
- She confirmed a conversation between McCarthy and Trump where Trump seemingly dismissed the attack on the Capitol.
Impeachment Witness Dilemma
- Democrats were torn about calling witnesses, fearing delays and hostile witnesses.
- They ultimately entered Herrera Beutler's statement into the record instead of deposing her, leading to acquittal.
Strategic Impeachment Error?
- Jon Favreau and Jon Lovett discuss the decision not to depose Herrera-Butler.
- They believe deposing her and playing her video testimony would have been powerful but acknowledge the potential risks and delays.