Lisa Brennan-Jobs is a New York-based writer. Her new book Small Fry is about her childhood and her relationship with her father, Steve Jobs. "You find yourself in a whole net, in a constellation of stories, each one connecting to another. It was amazing how much I remembered. Sometimes I meet people and they say, goodness, I can’t even remember what I had for lunch. How can you remember so much? And I think, oh, sit down for a while writing badly and you will remember and remember and remember. Some things weren’t terribly pleasant to remember. And some things were incredibly wonderful." Thanks to MailChimp, Under My Skin, Skagen, Sleeping Beauty Dreams, and Pitt Writers for sponsoring this week's episode. @LisaBrennanJobs Brennan-Jobs on Longform [1:35] Small Fry (Grove Press • 2018) [48:55] "Growing Up Jobs" (Vanity Fair • Sep 2018) [49:00] "In ‘Small Fry,’ Steve Jobs Comes Across as a Jerk. His Daughter Forgives Him. Should We?" (Nellie Bowles • The New York Times • Aug 2018) [56:15] Steve Jobs (Walter Isaacson • Simon & Schuster • 2011) [56:20] Steve Jobs (Aaron Sorkin • Universal Pictures • 2015)

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