Sean and Andrew explore the challenges and limitations of AI reasoning, especially in large language models (LLMs). They discuss recent Apple research questioning LLMs' true reasoning abilities, emphasizing that these models rely heavily on pattern recognition rather than genuine understanding. Their conversation addresses the hype around AI, its inherent fragility, and the importance of fostering AI literacy to avoid misplaced trust. They examine AI's potential as a writing partner, the critical need for accuracy in sensitive areas like healthcare and education, and the ethical implications of AI's role in digital communication, advocating for a nuanced, responsible approach to AI development.
Links:
- Gary Marcus on AI [Substack]
- Apple white paper - GSM-Symbolic: Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoning in Large Language Models
- Whisper in Hospitals [AP]
- Samsung's Moon Picture Controversy
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI Reasoning Challenges
04:46 Exploring AI's Limitations in Reasoning
12:36 The Fragility of AI Models
20:48 The Hype vs. Reality of AI Capabilities
25:56 AI Literacy and Trust Issues
28:58 Future Directions for AI Development
30:48 The Future of AI as a Writing Partner
33:39 Trust and Literacy in AI Applications
39:13 Critical Applications and the Need for Accuracy
43:46 Manipulation in Digital Communication
51:50 The Ethics of AI in High-Stakes Interactions
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Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is a Foresight Catalyst for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
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