The Nietzsche Podcast

88: René Girard - The Case for the Crucified

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Mar 19, 2024
The clash between Nietzsche's celebration of Dionysian values and Girard's defense of the Crucified forms the crux of a riveting discussion. Girard presents his theory of mimetic desire, exposing how social perception shapes our wants and fuels conflict. Christian forgiveness is spotlighted as a powerful response to violence, challenging traditional ideas of morality. As Girard reflects on his spiritual transformation, he critiques Nietzsche's legacy, suggesting that recognizing innocence can revolutionize our understanding of victimhood and cultural narratives.
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INSIGHT

Nietzsche's Critique of Christianity

  • Nietzsche contrasts the Dionysian with the morality of the crucified, exemplified by Christianity.
  • He criticizes Christianity's rejection of violence, a force he believed essential for establishing and maintaining culture.
INSIGHT

Girard's Unique Critique of Nietzsche

  • René Girard, unlike other Nietzsche critics, doesn't dispute Nietzsche's contrast between Dionysian and Christian worldviews.
  • Girard agrees with Nietzsche's assessment but supports the crucified, arguing for Christianity's revaluation of values.
ANECDOTE

Girard's Formative Years

  • René Girard, born in Avignon in 1923, lived through the Nazi occupation of France.
  • His experience in Paris during this time, marked by paranoia and hardship, likely shaped his worldview.
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