On The Record CEO Speaker Series With Dario Amodei of Anthropic
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Mar 11, 2025 
Dario Amodei, CEO and co-founder of Anthropic and former VP of research at OpenAI, shares insights on the future of AI leadership in the U.S. He discusses the evolution of AI models, emphasizing safety and national security concerns. The dialogue dives into the implications of export controls on advanced chips and the complex U.S.-China AI relationship. Amodei highlights AI’s transformative potential in public health and the hidden threats of illicit trade. He also explores the essence of humanity amid rapid technological advancements.
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Departure from OpenAI
- Dario Amodei and his co-founders left OpenAI due to differing views on the significance of scaling AI and the need for responsible development.
- They anticipated the large-scale implications of AI, including national security risks, which they felt OpenAI's leadership wasn't prioritizing.
Anthropic's Commitment to Safety
- Anthropic prioritized mechanistic interpretability research, despite its lack of immediate commercial value, publishing their findings for public benefit.
- They also delayed Claude's release by six months to assess safety, forgoing potential commercial gains.
Responsible Scaling and AI Safety Levels
- Anthropic's Responsible Scaling Policy categorizes AI safety levels, similar to biosafety levels for pathogens.
- Level 3 AI could enable unskilled individuals to perform dangerous tasks, requiring stricter security measures.