Cybersecurity Chameleons: Adapting to an AI-Driven World | A Conversation with Tom Eston | Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast With Sean Martin

Guest: Tom Eston, VP of Consulting & Cosmos at Bishop Fox [@bishopfox]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomeston/

On Twitter | https://twitter.com/agent0x0

On Mastodon | https://infosec.exchange/@agent0x0

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Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin
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Episode Notes

In this new Redefining CyberSecurity podcast episode, Tom Eston and Sean Martin debate the value of certifications such as the CISSP. Tom emphasizes that, in his area of offensive security, experience, cultural fit, and ability to learn are more important than certifications or formal education. The two also discuss the role of internships in providing real-world experience and hands-on learning opportunities for aspiring professionals.

The conversation also touches on the importance of finding a niche within the cybersecurity field. Tom highlights the need for specialization and encourages listeners to explore different areas and technologies to find what excites them the most. He also stresses the importance of learning the fundamentals before diving deep into a specific subject. Sean and Tom consider how job descriptions may evolve to embrace specialization and the need for experts in different aspects of cybersecurity.

Tom and Sean also discuss the role of AI in cybersecurity, both as a tool to assist in detection and response, and as a potential risk itself. Tom believes that learning how to interface with AI and understanding its capabilities is crucial for professionals in the industry. While AI can be an efficient assistant, it is essential not to rely solely on its output, as human analysis and verification remain vital in ensuring accuracy and security.

Listen to this episode and you might begin to determine what your cyber chameleon might look like.

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