

Cliff Obrecht on Canva, AI, and the Future of Creativity
13 snips Sep 13, 2025
Cliff Obrecht, co-founder and COO of Canva, shares insights on how his company is revolutionizing design accessibility and facing the challenges of AI integration. He discusses the importance of values-driven leadership and the ethical considerations of creativity in today’s fast-changing landscape. Cliff highlights Canva's commitment to social causes with a $100 million pledge and reflects on balancing personal and professional dynamics as co-founders. The conversation also touches on the urgent need for businesses to embrace self-disruption in the face of technology's rapid evolution.
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Product First Growth
- Canva grew mainly because the product solved a real problem, not because of marketing spend.
- When product-market fit is strong, organic growth can dominate early customer acquisition.
Start Niche, Then Scale Wisely
- Start niche and expand only when the core experience is excellent and scaleable.
- Add features that lift the whole platform and share data to drive broader value.
Rogue Users Drive Enterprise Adoption
- Cliff recounts conversations with enterprise CXOs discovering thousands of rogue Canva users inside their companies.
- Those discoveries turn into requests to control brand and scale on-brand content creation.