On this week's episode of The Data Stack Show, Eric and Kostas talk with John Marbach, senior growth manager at Grafana Labs. In this conversation, John discusses marketing ops and the blending of roles of data engineering and marketing.

Highlights from this week's episode include:

• Grafana Labs John Marbach Senior Growth Manager
• Introduction to John Marbach and working in the blurred lines between marketing and data engineering (2:14)
• How managing pipeline building and consuming data influences the use of downstream tools (6:28)
• Experiments in marketing (11:28)
• Exploring the role of marketing ops (15:35)
• How accruing technical debt can grind things to a halt (20:35)
• Matching the stack with the company's scale (24:48)
• CDPs and marketing to developers (28:40)
• Biggest challenges and barriers between data engineering and marketing (35:19)
• Takes on reverse ETL (39:07)
• Thoughts on cryptocurrency and the blockchain (44:08)

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