

Israel - Iran - ceasefire? Or more chaos
Jun 24, 2025
In this discussion, Jason Pack, host of the Disorder Podcast and expert on global disorder, joins Arthur to navigate the chaotic landscape of the Israel-Iran conflict. They ponder the implications of recent military actions, Trump's peace initiatives, and Netanyahu's controversial role. The duo advocates for a united Western approach to peace, debating Europe's potential diplomatic contributions and the impact of military strategies on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Their candid insights illuminate the shifting dynamics and urgent need for resolution in the region.
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Limited Impact of US Strikes
- The US strike on Fordow likely didn't destroy the Iranian nuclear program entirely.
- The Iranians likely received advanced warning, reducing the strike's effectiveness.
Israel's Regime Change Goal
- Israel's goal appears to be regime change in Iran, beyond just targeting nuclear facilities.
- This approach risks escalating conflict without guaranteeing success.
Advocate Restraint on Regime Change
- Restrain Israeli ambitions to regime change in Iran to prevent further chaos.
- Focus on denuclearization efforts rather than maximalist goals.