David L. Collins - Part 1: To Know Like Love Like What It Is To Be
Feb 18, 2022
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David L. Collins, a contemplative practitioner with a near-death experience, discusses deep jhana, meditation in sleep, life as sacred display, and the concept of 'to know like love like what it is to be'. The conversation includes similarities between The Cloud of Unknowing and Dogen's practices, the paradox of effort and effortlessness, and the intersection of personal experiences with scientific materialism.
Exploration of meditation practices from diverse traditions emphasizing deep presence and awareness.
Significance of near-death experience shaping interest in contemplative traditions and existential questions.
Deep dives
Exploring Interests in Mysticism and Meditation
Dave Collins discusses his deep interest in comparative mysticism, religion, meditation, and their intersection with cognitive science and philosophy of mind, shaped by his background in religious studies and psychology. He highlights the significance of meditation practices and contemplative traditions, emphasizing the commonality in practices across diverse cultures that intrigue him.
Profound Near-Death Experience
Dave shares a pivotal near-death experience from his childhood, describing a drowning incident where he lost consciousness and had a profound realization during resuscitation. This harrowing event led him to contemplate the distinctions between pain and suffering, shaping his later interest in contemplative traditions and existential questions.
Integration of Religious Studies and Psychology
Dave reflects on his academic journey, blending religious studies and psychology, despite initial doubts from mentors in each field about his fit in the other. He underscores his practical and pragmatic focus, aiming to understand and engage with spiritual and psychological concepts through experiential practice.
Embracing Diverse Meditation Practices
Dave delves into his exploration of meditation practices from varied traditions, including Buddhism and Zen, highlighting the different approaches to realization and the core theme of cultivating a deep presence and awareness. He connects these practices to personal experiences and philosophical reflections on the nature of consciousness and being.
Wherein Dave and I discuss his near-death experience early in life and subsequent draw to contemplative study and practice, similarities between the practices and outlooks of the anonymous author of The Cloud of Unknowing and Dogen, the apparent paradox of effort and effortlessness along the path, deep jhana, meditation in sleep, life as sacred display, and what it means 'to know like love like what it is to be'. In a future second part, hopefully we'll get around to how this fits a naturalistic understanding of our selves and the world.
I mentor meditation in Shinzen Young's Unified Mindfulness system. If that or any of my ambling thoughts in long-form are of interest to you, check out my website: https://www.wystantbs.com/