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Money Life with Chuck Jaffe

Allspring's Bory: Recession is likely, but first comes stagflation

Apr 15, 2025
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George Bory, chief investment strategist for fixed income at Allspring Global Investments, says "We are in the midst of a stagflationary environment that's likely to last three to six months," with the question remaining whether a recession will follow. He does now think that recession is likely, though changes to trade and monetary policy could stave it off. Bory also discusses how and why the bond market and Treasury yields are having more impact on the government's tariff policy than the wide stock market swings that have been capturing the headlines. Alex Coffey, senior trading strategist at Charles Schwab, says that current levels of volatility make it so that he's not looking out long-term, focusing instead "on, maybe, where we are going to be next week," noting that the wide daily trading ranges of the market — where there are sometimes a month or quarter's worth of movement in a single day — render long-term views too muddy to be valuable. In the Market Call, Jonathan Smucker, portfolio manager at Marietta Investment Partners, says his top-down macro view suggests investors need to "buckle up" for a lengthy trade and tariff war, but then he talks about the temes and the bottoms-up fundamentals that are pointing him to invest in certain industries now.

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