Journey to the Sunnyside Rethinking Recovery: Where the System Fails w/ Dr. Andrew Tatarsky, PhD
Ever since our first interview, I’ve come to deeply respect today’s guest — and I’m grateful to now call him a close friend. Dr. Andrew Tatarsky is a clinical psychologist, author, and one of the pioneers of harm reduction psychotherapy — a model that’s helped thousands of people build a better relationship with substances, even if abstinence isn’t their starting point. In this first part of our conversation, we talk about why traditional models — like abstinence-only and the 12-step approach — still dominate, despite working for only a small percentage of people. We explore the history behind those models, how they became the standard, and why that can leave so many people feeling stuck, shamed, or unsupported. This episode isn’t about dismissing what works — if you’ve found a path that helps you, that’s a win. But we also need to talk about the millions of people who haven’t found success with the old playbook — and to know there are other options.
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