What is Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy’s Department of Government Efficiency? And how will it compare to a similar initiative from the Clinton administration? David Osborne joins Elie Honig to break down the “DOGE.”

Osborne is director emeritus of the Reinventing America’s Schools Project at the Progressive Policy Institute. Previously, he served as senior advisor to Vice President Al Gore and helped coordinate the National Performance Review, a kind of predecessor to Trump’s DOGE.

Shownotes & transcript can be found at CAFE.com.

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