Stand-up comedian Gary Gulman returns to the podcast as Mike and Gary evaluate the true level of their friendship. They discuss vulnerability in comedy, unhappiness vs. depression, and the advice Gary got from Larry David. They also delve into the dynamics of being called a nerd, navigating happiness, overcoming fears, and the power of simple truth. They reflect on the impact of the pandemic, balancing comedy with family, and the challenges of parenthood. The chapter also covers best and worst nicknames, loneliness in art, jokes about Jesus, and personal experiences with Jewish pride.