Poet Brendan Joyce is on the show to talk about his new chapbook (available here on May 1st: https://gumroad.com/nicetryofficer). We talk about our own experiences of the lockdown and unemployment, poetry under quarantine, the possibilities for resistance AND we come up with a sure-fire way to totally destroy the Orange Orangutan Thief-In-Chief. Music by Cirith Ungol https://cirithungol.bandcamp.com/ And Katatonia.