
Strong Message Here Regime Change (with Natalie Haynes)
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Jan 8, 2026 In this discussion, Natalie Haynes, a broadcaster and classicist, delves into the evolving vocabulary surrounding political upheaval, particularly in Venezuela. She and Armando Iannucci question why the U.S. avoids calling it 'regime change' and critique euphemisms like 'extraction.' They also explore the responsibilities that follow the removal of leaders and Trump's unique approach to foreign policy. Additionally, Natalie humorously addresses a 'mild zombie apocalypse' and its implications for the economy. Join them for a witty take on language and politics!
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Abandoning The Pedometer
- Natalie Haynes abandoned her pedometer after its new owner demanded excessive personal data.
- She now walks without tracking and feels slightly liberated.
Broken By Taskmaster
- Armando Iannucci joined Taskmaster and performed a physical task that left him with a sore back and knee.
- He jokes the show "broke" him but says the experience was worthwhile.
Surgical Language Masks Consequences
- The US framed the Venezuela operation with surgical metaphors to avoid calling it a war or 'regime change'.
- Armando Iannucci argues such language masks complex follow-up consequences after the "extraction."

