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Jason Stellman (host of Drunk Ex-Pastor Podcast) comes on to talk about the church, his newly found Catholicism, and his book “Misfit Faith: Confessions of a Drunk Ex-Pastor.” Tullian Tchividjian texts Matt during the show and the word “secular” is played out. And in The Damn News, we can't save our own environment, maybe we can help Mars with theirs.
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