Welcome to More Christ. We seek to bring some of the world's most interesting and insightful guests to discuss life's central and abiding questions. In this ninety first episode in a series of discussions, I'm joined once more by Jonathan Pageau and Dr Martin Shaw.

Jonathan carves Eastern Orthodox and other traditional images. He also designs products, teaches, and makes fantastic videos for The Symbolic World that explore how ancient patterns can re-enchant our contemporary life.

Please check out Jonathan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageau

Martin is regarded as one of the most outstanding new teachers of the mythic imagination. Visiting fellow at Schumacher college in the U.K., he has also devised and lead the Oral Tradition course at Stanford university in the U.S. He is the author of the award winning; A Branch from The Lightning Tree, Snowy Tower, Scatterlings, Smoke Hole, and other classics.

Martin now leads a bustling schedule of conferences, gatherings, and wilderness retreats over several continents.

You can see our first conversation, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317oK...

Martin's website: https://drmartinshaw.com/

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