First of a two part dialogue with Michelle Garner of O.G Rose. We explore truth as a moving spirit which we can be girded by. Michelle embodies a profound openness and willingness to enter the world's of others and she shares how being girded and rooted in truth affords this. We consider truth as redemptive and transformative to suffering. Then we look at how truth cultivated in philosophy doesn't always translate into social life and encounters with the opposite sex. -- In pt.2 we explore the wisdom of motherhood. -- O.G. Rose is the penname of Daniel and Michelle Garner, consisting of Michelle’s maiden, middle, and their shared last name. A finalist for the UNO Press Lab Prize and Pushcart Nominee, O.G. Rose’s creative works appear at The Write Launch, Allegory Ridge, Ponder Review, Iowa Review online, The William and Mary Review, Assure Press, Toho Journal online, O:JA&L, West Trade Review, Broken Pencil, Burningword, and Poydras Review. While at the University of Virginia, O.G. Rose worked collaboratively with other artists at Eunoia, a creative community Rose helped develop. Rose now lives on a farm, manages a venue named Mead Lake Lodge, and teaches piano using visuals from the DLG Pattern Method. O.G Rose Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel/featured Substack: https://ogrose.substack.com/ Jacob Kishere is the host of SENSESPACE, a home for dialogue on Insight, Wisdom and Healing. He writes essays and reflections at the Culturepilgrim substack and is producing rap as Culturepilgrim. https://culturepilgrim.substack.com/ https://twitter.com/JacobKishere