When working with orchestration in automated systems, how do you find the right balance between things that are event driven and things that are workflow driven, or more linear? We go through some of the history of where we went from linear orchestration (Ansible) to timed orchestration (Chef or Puppet). We also discussed SaltStack, which had an event driven system into it, but didn't gain the traction that we might have expected as we look at the amount of orchestration systems that are now coming to light. In this conversation, we address the balance between when you orchestrate and when you want to do workflow and linear transactions, and how to find that sweet spot. One of the things that we've determined is, there aren't a lot of tools that hit that sweet spot. And I think if you listen carefully, you'll see why. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/ynb8KndfUhKsTvQG6965ktepv-Y Image: https://www.pexels.com/photo/a-choir-singing-while-holding-a-flower-7569413/