Hi there and a very warm welcome to Season 5 Episode 3 of People Soup – it’s Ross McIntosh here. 

This is the final part of my chat with Jutta, we could have gone on for days, but I'm sure she'll be back. Dr Jutta Tobias Mortlock, a social psychologist from City, University of London who is the co-director of the Centre for Excellence in Mindfulness Research.

IN this episode - Jutta describes more about her published research, the paper is called - "Extending the Transformative Potential of Mindfulness Through Team Mindfulness Training, Integrating Individual With Collective Mindfulness, in a High-Stress Military Setting" - and that's in Frontiers in Psychology. We find our what there is to learn from geese in terms of team work and how the collective mindfulness literature shows that this reliability or resilience in the face of collective stress for an organization is driven by two things, leadership and culture. We also touch upon the reputational damage to mindfulness, caused by the tone deaf way it can be introduced by some organisations. There's a heck of a lot for your listening pleasure in the next 30 minutes or so and I've called the episode Lessons from the Skein - which is the name fora flock of wild geese or swans in flight, typically in a V-shaped formation.

People Soup is an award winning podcast where we share evidence based behavioural science, in a way that’s practical, accessible and fun to help you glow to work a bit more often.

Another first for Season 5 is that I'm adding a transcript, wherever possible. There is a caveat - this transcript is largely generated by Artificial Intelligence, I have corrected many errors but I won't have captured them all!

• Jutta's most recent paper on collective mindfulness - Extending the Transformative Potential of Mindfulness Through Team Mindfulness Training, Integrating Individual With Collective Mindfulness, in a High-Stress Military Setting
• Articles by Mara Gulens, Author at Mindful
• You can hear me discuss psychological safety in virtual teams with Alexandra Lechner, one of Jutta's research students, via this link from Season 4.
• Find out more about Karl Weick here.
• Ravi S Kudesia is an inspirational mindfulness scholar - you can find his website here.
• You can find Jutta on Twitter here.
• Here's a link to the Centre for Excellence in Mindfulness Research
• Dr Jutta Tobias Mortlock • City, University of London

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