Tangle Suspension of the Rules. - Ari, Kmele and Will talk about Megyn Kelly, Will's take on James Comey, the government shut down and more.
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Oct 3, 2025 The hosts dive into an engaging discussion about Kmele's interview with Megyn Kelly, analyzing her controversial connections and cable news dynamics. Will shares his perspective on why the Comey indictment feels politically charged, while Ari questions its broader implications. They also tackle the routine yet perilous nature of government shutdowns and the Democratic leadership's challenges in negotiation. Finally, they lighten the mood with personal grievances about weddings, tech delays, and the weather.
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Conversation With Megyn Kelly
- Camille Foster recounts inviting Megyn Kelly to appear on The Fifth Column as part of an ongoing relationship since Kelly launched her independent show.
- The conversation explored Kelly's ties to controversial figures and emphasized measured debate over categorical denunciations.
Deconstruct Ideas, Don't Just Denounce
- Camille argues measured deconstruction of dangerous ideas can be more valuable than blanket denunciations that people tune out.
- She suggests exposing and explaining specific false claims is often more persuasive than name-calling.
Comey Indictment Reads As Political
- Will Kavak frames the Comey indictment as a plainly political prosecution driven by Trump and his allies' public pressure.
- He warns that pursuing politically motivated prosecutions is a long-term lose-lose for institutions and the public trust.