

Zelensky's White House Return, Newsom Trolls Trump, and Guest Co-Host Abby Phillip
657 snips Aug 19, 2025
Abby Phillip, anchor at CNN, joins the discussion to explore key political moments. They dive into Zelensky's return to the White House and the potential for peace negotiations with Europe. Gavin Newsom's playful trolling of Trump takes center stage—will it help Democrats? The conversation also touches on GOP governors sending National Guard troops to D.C. and the implications of a new corporate ranking system proposed by the Trump administration. Phillip's insights on Jesse Jackson and Black political power add depth to the dialogue.
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Intervene To Stop Manufactured Moments
- Stop guests when they intentionally misrepresent or play for viral moments to keep the conversation honest.
- Abby says she intervenes to prevent manufactured moments and to avoid libel or personal attacks.
Moderation Balances Leeway And Guardrails
- Abby emphasizes giving both liberal and conservative guests leeway but stopping when the conversation becomes libelous or personally abusive.
- She views the show as a place to map the contours of debate, not to eliminate partisanship entirely.
Guests Reflect The Electorate
- Abby explains why she books nontraditional guests like influencers: they represent real segments of the electorate.
- She defends giving wide leeway to guests while stepping in when they spread demonstrable falsehoods.