In the latest trip down the But Why memory lane, Clemmie chats to Zoë Colville - aka @thechiefshepherdess on Instagram - about how she swapped a hair salon in Soho for life on the farm in Kent, why gold hoop earrings are important even when feeding goats, AND why she's determined to educate people about where food really comes from.

To find out more about Zoë, check out her Instagram page and to get your hands on some of the produce from her farm, head to The Little Farm Fridge. – the little farm fridge.

Find Clemmie on Instagram @Clemmie_Telford.

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BUT WHY REWIND - FARMING WITH THE CHIEF SHEPHERDESS