Does input REALLY need to be comprehensible? - Refold Podcast Ep 68
Dec 16, 2023
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The podcast discusses the importance of comprehension in language learning, exploring the benefits of high comprehension content and the role of comprehensibility. It also explores challenges like gender in language production and translation difficulties, and emphasizes the acquisition of true word knowledge through deeper understanding. The concept of the effective filter and speaker identity are explored, along with the significance of preserving fun and avoiding burnout in language learning.
Comprehension beyond word coverage is important, focusing on understanding the main idea of a sentence.
Higher comprehension of native content leads to increased enjoyability and depth of language acquisition.
Deep dives
The relationship between comprehension and language acquisition
The podcast discusses the relationship between comprehension and language acquisition. It is suggested that above 50% comprehension, there is a similar level of language gain regardless of whether one understands half the words or all but one word in a sentence. However, it is also mentioned that comprehension goes beyond word coverage and can vary greatly, with the importance of understanding the main idea behind a sentence highlighted. It is also acknowledged that word coverage does not necessarily equate to comprehension, as different factors like font or accent can affect understanding.
The benefits of high comprehension
The podcast presents the benefits of high comprehension, linking it to increased enjoyability. Research involving Spanish videos and participant feedback suggests that higher comprehension of native content correlates with greater enjoyment. However, personal experiences are also shared, noting that while high comprehension allows for a deeper focus on language nuances and particle acquisition, it can limit exposure to a broader range of topics and potentially become monotonous.
The impact of comprehension on language learning progress
The discussion highlights the impact of comprehension on language learning progress. It is suggested that lower comprehension leads to greater vocabulary acquisition, while higher comprehension enables a focus on grammar and subtler language aspects. Personal experiences with Japanese and German are shared, emphasizing the importance of comprehension at different stages of language learning and the benefits it offers in terms of deepening understanding.
Speaker identity and its effect on language learning
The concept of speaker identity and its influence on language learning is explored. It is discussed how perceiving oneself as part of the native speaker in-group can positively impact language acquisition. The idea of feeling entitled to learn a language and connecting with its culture is considered. However, factors like anxiety and personal motivations are recognized as potential influences on speaker identity and language learning experience.
The community is back for another special Round Table edition of the Refold Podcast. This week, Clayton is joined by some of our favorite Refold modmins, Skypon, Exaltedtoast, and Cyn.
They're diving deep into the question: How comprehensible does your input need to be to make real significant progress? Is there a Goldilocks zone of comprehensibility? Tune in as they share their experiences and more!
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