Happy Easter! Fi's back but Jane G is now off for a week (keep up!) so Fi and Jane M are here to keep you company this bank holiday Monday. They chat cling film, jet washing and ways France are getting it right.

Plus, Jane Garvey spoke to Sara Cox last week about her new novel 'Way Back', which is out now.

Our next book club pick has been announced - A Dutiful Boy by Mohsin Zaidi.

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Bottom medicine (with Sara Cox)